Superfine Apostate

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  Any Spanish speakers?

  by ThomasCovenant in

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  hi.

  can anyone tell me if this is a pro or anti jw site?.

  thomas covenant.

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  Superfine Apostate

  from a first look i can tell it's not pro... if there are any active JWs on there, they are highly critical.
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  Self Deceit and Faith.

  by hillary_step in

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  this thread is inspired by a comment made on another thread, but i thought it would make an interesting discussion.. self deceit is described as a "misconception that is favorable to the person who holds it".

  my premise is that faith is a form of self-deceit - lying to oneself.. so, i would ask of the "faithful" the following questions and would request that they be read carefully to ensure no that there is no misunderstanding of purpose.. 1) in what way is faith not self-deception?.

  2) is a person who has faith in a god that you do not believe in, say for example siva, practicing a form of self-deception?.

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  > it gives me no basis for hope whatsoever.
  
  why believers believe: that pretty much sums it up.
  
  a theory is not a fact that can't be proved, a theory describes something observable, falsifiable, testable. scientific method. you may just chose to not believe in electricity. it does not give us any hope either.
  
  evolution is a law of nature (natural selection + mutation). evolution theory describes how it works.
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  The Steps Between JWism and Atheism

  by compound complex in

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  greetings, friends:.

  i recently put up a thread entitled "when can i comment?

  " new to the thought process of critical thinking, i have felt overwhelmed by the wealth of information now available to a mind opened up to society-banned material.

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  > How to become an atheist in 8 easy steps or your money back!
  love that! :)
  i have to add, that during all my steps i had the urge to discuss. i soon found out, that the JWs were not a good place for discussions or even questions. i also found out, that my family was no good place for discussion. i don't know what would have happened if it wasn't for the internet...
  
  >Throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
  there never was a baby
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  The Positive Thread

  by Superfine Apostate in

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  post something positive.. .

  i'll make the start: after years of fading, my believing wife stopped attending the meetings also and i no longer have to be careful about what i'm talking about when hanging around with the rest of my jw friends.

  for me this is quite an achievement and i'm happy with it.. .

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  Superfine Apostate

  i'm just coming back from a chinese restaurant. they had some really good rice-schnaps... i feel a little positive right now
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  Why do bible thumpers have to immagine a God who test.

  by jaguarbass in

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  i get this daily email from a bible thumping friend of mine this was part of todays topic.. sometimes we wonder, "why do we have to go through these trials & breakings, lord?

  " well, there are some things the lord can't reveal to you in advance because you're not yet ready.

  he's got to let you go through some testings without your even knowing what the future holds, to see if you can take it, to see how loyal you are, to see how strong you are, to see how faithful you are, to see if you will be willing to do whatever he asks!

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  Superfine Apostate

  you like to evade the real stuff, don't you? according to chronicles god did test david - the parallel in kings even mentions an evil spirit/devil that god sent. he also tested abraham if he'd kill his son, which in my mind seems evil (christians probably have another sense of morals though).
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  Four shot dead in Colorado massacre-because they were Christians

  by BurnTheShips in

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  Superfine Apostate

  i hate a lot of things, including religion. would not make me kill anybody though. you'd probably be better of without your bible - life's bigger, ya know.
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  The Spirit World - where's the middle ground?

  by feenx in

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  hey everybody :)

  after a post yesterday about dead loved ones returning in spirit form i started to think, from an ex jw standpoint, when it comes to the spirit world where is the middle ground?

  perhaps some ex jw's don't believe in a spirit world anymore, perhaps some still do.

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  Superfine Apostate

  the average logical thinking person should look for scientific evidence.
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  Self Deceit and Faith.

  by hillary_step in

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  this thread is inspired by a comment made on another thread, but i thought it would make an interesting discussion.. self deceit is described as a "misconception that is favorable to the person who holds it".

  my premise is that faith is a form of self-deceit - lying to oneself.. so, i would ask of the "faithful" the following questions and would request that they be read carefully to ensure no that there is no misunderstanding of purpose.. 1) in what way is faith not self-deception?.

  2) is a person who has faith in a god that you do not believe in, say for example siva, practicing a form of self-deception?.

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  Superfine Apostate

  > really...is it the same as the law of gravity?
  
  almost. the law of gravity simply states "the apple falls down". the theory of gravity explains why and how.
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  Why do bible thumpers have to immagine a God who test.

  by jaguarbass in

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  i get this daily email from a bible thumping friend of mine this was part of todays topic.. sometimes we wonder, "why do we have to go through these trials & breakings, lord?

  " well, there are some things the lord can't reveal to you in advance because you're not yet ready.

  he's got to let you go through some testings without your even knowing what the future holds, to see if you can take it, to see how loyal you are, to see how strong you are, to see how faithful you are, to see if you will be willing to do whatever he asks!

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  Superfine Apostate

  > When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me."
  > For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone
  
  know your bible:
  
  genesis 22:1 "And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am."
  
  samuel 24:1 "And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah."
  
  matthew 6:13 "And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil"
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  Self Deceit and Faith.

  by hillary_step in

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  this thread is inspired by a comment made on another thread, but i thought it would make an interesting discussion.. self deceit is described as a "misconception that is favorable to the person who holds it".

  my premise is that faith is a form of self-deceit - lying to oneself.. so, i would ask of the "faithful" the following questions and would request that they be read carefully to ensure no that there is no misunderstanding of purpose.. 1) in what way is faith not self-deception?.

  2) is a person who has faith in a god that you do not believe in, say for example siva, practicing a form of self-deception?.

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  Superfine Apostate

  > o dear o dear
  
  first paragraph: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory
  
  btw: gravitation is a theory...